The TV show topic

[Beckendorf_Direscope]

Yo, just your friendly mod reminder to reread 1 Corinthians 8.

[Jacoby_Elderfun1]

Straight up, @Beckendorf_Direscope. Fits perfectly.

[Jacoby_Elderfun1]

Oh, yeah. I wanted to add by the way, that I'm not expecting anyone just to up and leave their old ways and I'm not saying what I did to be discouraging. If it did make anyone feel that way, it's a good thing. First of all, it takes guts to do that on your own which is equivalent to meaning you can't. That's God working on your heart. It took me years to finally not be so hard to the truth about what I viewed and listened to. God was breaking off the old and turning it into something new. And it hasn't stopped. Little by little, He's changing us. It's a journey. Just stay alert to the Spirit's warnings and listen to His call.

That's all the advice I've got on the matter.

[Iliara_Mustardtop]

Thanks for the advice, but I'm a bit wary of letting other people's convictions lead my path. I do appreciate your heart towards this, though!

[Jessie_Dearsnap]

Thank you @Beckendorf_Direscope for that Bible chapter. We all need to read that and remember it.

Now, personally that show is not for me. I, with my convictions and beliefs, agree with you @Jacoby_Elderfun1 about the content and such, however... each of us have been raised differently to some degree or another. So, what might be wrong to us, isn't seen as wrong to others. For example:

-Saturday vs Sunday to worship.
-Keeping Feast days.
-Observing holidays such as Christmas.
-Eating meat or pork.

Those are just a few examples of things we can differ on concerning the Bible. In addition to 1 Corinthians 8, I'd like to add a good portion of Roman's 14 and Colossians 2 into the mix.

How to Interpret the Bible

“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.” Col. 2:16-17

“One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself.
8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s.
9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written: “As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”
12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.
13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.“ Romans 14

That being said, I'm not looking for a debate or argument or anything. I'm simply saying that we each have our different beliefs and have been raised that this or that is wrong, while another person was raised with different definitions of wrong. As we get older, we can and should search for ourselves and continue to grow in what we believe.

Bashing someone for what they do or don't believe really isn't right. Saying our beliefs is fine, but if it becomes a "you're wrong and sinning, I'm right, listen to me," then we run into a bit of an issue. More often than not, it turns the person against whatever you have to say or believe, which is the total opposite of what you are trying to accomplish... and they won't want to heed your advice in any matter... We all need to search for ourselves to find out what God says about things. Planting a seed in someone's mind is good... pushing it on them, is not.

Just my few thoughts on the matter. I'm not trying to start anything, so this is probably like my one and only post on the matter lol. People can DM me over chess or wherever if ya need.

[Beth_Applemine]

I'm simply saying that we each have our different beliefs and have been raised that this or that is wrong, while another person was raised with different definitions of wrong. As we get older, we can and should search for ourselves and continue to grow in what we believe.

That kind of mentality is dangerous. There is only one truth, God’s truth. It’s not subjective, it never changes, and it’s always applicable. If God says something is wrong, then it’s wrong. No buts, no acceptions, no excuses.

[Iliara_Mustardtop]

I get what you’re saying, and yes there are some absolute truths for sure!! The Bible does not specifically state an absolute truth of either “watch Stranger Things” or “don’t watch it.” What it does give us for this case is principles, but we all apply them differently according to our best knowledge and our current relationship with God. And that’s where we all start to disagree…

[Beth_Applemine]

Sorry if I seemed a bit harsh, not trying to offend anyone.

[Iliara_Mustardtop]

Not at all! It was good to hear your thoughts.

[Jessie_Dearsnap]

Yes, I should've specified that lol. We have the Ten Commandments and what Jesus has clearly stated. There is no going around those. Those are solid, absolute truths that we know and must live by. Jesus showed us the way to live and has laid out for us what is right and wrong. Like Iliara said was more of what I was pertaining to. Stranger Things, StarWars and different things like that are not specified in the Bible. We are to take what we know from what Jesus has said and apply it to our daily lives.

When we think about what we watch, play, do, anything, we are to think of what Jesus says and apply it to those things according to what we have found in the Bible. Everyone has a different interpretation of some of those principles when applying it to things such as movies and what not.

But yes, I agree. There is no way around what God has said with what is right and wrong. What I meant was that with the principles, we each have been taught differently and understand them differently. We are to read the Bible, listen to the Godly people we know and let God lead in our lives.

I apologize for not making that clear.

[Beth_Applemine]

I just wanna summarize my thoughts with this:

“All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:23‬ ‭

Sure, spending all day playing video games isn’t a sin, but is it worth it? Is it glorifying God?
Yeah, watching a sketch tv show isn’t sinful, but what good is it doing for you, for you walk with Christ? Shouldn’t we live every moment of our lives for him?

I like to gauge whether a movie is worth watching or not by thinking ‘If Jesus watched this movie with me, would he be happy about it?’
I mean, he kinda already is.

[Jayhawk_Greencape]

‘If Jesus watched this movie with me, would he be happy about it?’

Hmm... I think this can go for far more than just movies and TV shows. :0)

[Jessie_Dearsnap]

Doing some praying and researching a bit, I think it's a bit more clear to me now.

I think what Jacoby was trying to do is "edify" a fellow Christian. The Bible talks about edifying one another:

Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another.
Romans 14:19 NKJV

Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
I Thessalonians 5:11 NKJV

I think what happened was that it it came across as more judgemental and condemning than as edifying. We aren't to judge, but to edifying in gentleness.

Referring to Romans 14, it says that what might be wrong to one person, may not be wrong for another. Either how a person was raised or from the studying if the Bible that they have done themselves. Now, we do know that there are absolute truths laid out for us in the Bible. There is no way around those and no excuse for not heeding them. Applying those principles to other things in life can be difficult.

I agree with Beth's summarizing thoughts because that is also how I try to gauge things. People interpret that different ways though from their walk with Christ. But I am in agreement with you and your thoughts Beth.

So I think for my summary is that, we are to edify one another in gentleness, but not to judge. We can say what we see is wrong with choices people make in a tactful manner. If we aren't tactful and come across as judging, then we havent really helped the situation. There are many times when I, myself have not been tactful and have been too hasty, and I hope you will all forgive me for that.

I also think that we are to uphold the Bible truths the the best of our knowledge and ability. If someone comes to us and tells us what they see we are doing wrong, it is helpful for us to search the Scripture for ourselves to see if what that person has said is true. Some might find it true, while others interpret things differently. So I strongly advise that we all search the Scriptures to find the truths, pray about it and also to go to those who we see as spiritual, godly leaders and see what they have to say on the matter in question.

May we all work to edify each other and not condemn. And may God bless us as we each work to apply His truths and guidance in our lives.

[Spector_Otterquill]

Is this a debate about whether we should watch raunchy TV shows?
like do whatever, but do it for the glory of God. You might not watch Star Wars or you might have to watch Star Wars. Whatever you do be enslaved to nothing and bring glory to God.

"All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything. 1 Corinthians 6:12

[Eerie_Coppernight]

I am so glad I did not get pulled into this at one in the morning.

The way I see it, Stranger Things would not have become so beloved unless it was in some way true, good, and/or beautiful. I have not seen it as reviews are mixed at best. The best I can say about it is that it seems better than some mainstream alternatives.

I've become generally wary of mainstream pop culture as it has strayed further and further from truth, goodness, and beauty. Star Wars is an example of this as the recent films have used the Star Wars name to create badly-written stories.

Occasionally there is a pearl in the pigsty, but one has to wonder if the pigs are worth it.

[Danyul_Braziervest]

So, I watched the first two episodes of Amazon's Rings of Power based on Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books.

Thoughts anyone? The most interesting character for me, is probably Bronwyn, the human lady that....

Spoilers. WATCH Rings of Power yourself! It's a slow moving story, but worth it

has feelings for an elf. She's an adept healer, and killed an orc in an epic and brave way. I'm looking forward to seeing the Middle Earth taboo of elves never marrying humans conflict play out. Her son Theo also has an evil looking sword, so maybe he'll get corrupted, and then hopefully gets redeemed into a hero

[Jayhawk_Greencape]

Spoilers?

evil looking sword

I think that's supposed to be the broken sword of Sauron or Morgoth. (I think I spelled those correctly.)

I am looking forward to this Friday for the continuation!

[Iliara_Mustardtop]

I'm not sure quite how I feel about it yet, and there are some things I wish they'd done differently, but so far it seems pretty cool!

[Hammerhead_Crinkleporridge]

I feel like the Aetherlight would be better as a youtube series than a tv show.

[Ethan_Burnkeep]

Nope. Tv Series would be more..... enjoyable.