But the reasoning that Goku used was that parents would talk about it with their kids and we didn’t need to talk about it on it here. If parents are shutting it down as @Lilliana_Umbrellascope says, then Goku’s reasoning for shutting it down here is invalid.
Just thought I should point it this out.
In fairness to you, I never made a big deal of it, whereas our gentleman friends did, and then some of their remarks made it seems like they were promoting it, whereas my posts very obviously did not.
(With the exception of Hans’ posts, which were on the opposite end of the spectrum on top of the toxic philosophy I placed in the summary above. But does spouting that philosophy- from one of the most politically oriented forumers here, I would expect that from him - really deserve a slam for not being able to read? That made me angry, especially in the reversal.)
So let us be absolutely clear, gentlemen friends. Homosexuality is a sin, an affront to God that should be avoided. It is unhealthy to pursue, and there are medical consequences because that not how God intended our bodies to operate. It also leads to the consequence of not being able to have biological children or abusing women (or men, in the case of the female version) to get them.
Even if these ugly and nasty consequences did not exist, God saying no should be enough. Nobody gets away with rebelling against God for long. All you are doing is inviting suffering into your life.
In addition to these points, this particular biological system, without going into detail, is designed to hold onto a body of the opposite gender in an absolute death grip. Placing something else in its grasp is painful because it doesn’t fulfill what it wants to have. Human bodies want to be married as God says they should be, and they will move in that direction as much as the person’s belief system and conditions allow. Genesis 2:24 is an absolute.
God has mandated it; it will occur. In Christ, we have the Holy Spirit that can produce a belief system that says that it’s not as valuable as other work for God’s glory and honor and thus place our bodies under control, but this does not change Genesis 2:24. sigh
Which brings me to my last point, which I should have brought up earlier, but it belongs in this post.
I would have my reservations about talking about any sort of romance topic, this included, in real life, with a bunch of young men. Who do seem to be the vast majority of people who wish to discuss this here, aside me and possibly you.
In this virtual environment, our bodies are displaced from each other, in time, space, and distance, and this reduces the ugly power dynamics our bodies exert during opposite-gender interactions by a huge margin. The forum gives us a little taste of heaven in that regard, where all of this will be over and we can exist in perfect fellowship without said power dynamics hanging over our words. I’m very much looking forward to that, really. I do like talking with male human beings in general, and I have had much occasion to hate myself for liking it.
And to some extent, I want to push for that heaven now, or at least as far as it can be done, so sometimes I am brave enough to say it’s not a big deal and the Holy Spirit can overcome it, and radical enough to just go for it anyway. On the other hand, IRL I recognize that I have the capacity to emotionally hurt a male human being I am talking to quite badly, and he has the power to put me in the hospital. I can’t really fully turn off that awareness, and to some extent, it would be wrong to. It is important to respect the power the other person has.
My excuse IRL for shamelessly jumping the divide sometimes is that we aren’t talking about that thing, it’s something else we’re talking about and I’m okay, which is true and it does work for most guys. But in the scenario of older forumers discussing homosexuality in a cafe, we are talking about that thing and thus we end up circling the proverbial drain at least a little bit. Eventually I’d probably be the one causing tension and have to leave, letting the young men discuss it on their own.
In addition to these points, if you are uncomfortable on the virtual environment you can just turn the computer off and get yourself under control. IRL, not so easily - you’re basically trapped in the scenario. These factors do make the forum better for dealing with this than a cafe. We also get more viewpoints as well because they can come from anywhere.
So Iliara, I hate to break this to you, but this is a writer-moderator conflict, and I am afraid that the writers have you outnumbered and outgunned. It goes back to what I said in the essay I recently wrote: moderators have to make rules that are acceptable to the community. The community is not approving of your outdated reasoning from Goku. Case in point, I am still double-standarding this whole thing by discussing our not discussing of homosexuality which is basically discussing it anyway. We’re still here. It’s like trying to fight the wind.
Hans would be your best hope of destroying this “evil writers” consortium, but unfortunately, I have ample evidence to suggest that he is on our side, so you are doomed. Muhaha.
It’s always the same question though. Do we deal with the community as it is, or how it is supposed to be? I think when the new content comes out, this consortium is going to get a rude awakening. Nothing I just said here invalidates all of my previous points. I mean, millstones and the sea. That’s serious business.
Perhaps, though, today’s trouble is enough for today, is it not? The new content has not come out. The waters are still. God placed us in this situation, and there must be a way for all of us to dwell in unity, as we are called to do. Let us continue thinking.