This is a post I never thought I'd have to make on here.
Cross-dressing is wrong because it lies to other people about who God made you to be. However, the general rule that I use for this is the following:
- It is okay to be a man/boy/male human being who does things that society may consider feminine, as long as you are a man doing those things.
- It is okay to be a female/girl/female human being who does things that society may consider masculine, as long as you are a woman doing those things.
Because what society considers to be masculine and feminine is arbitrary, as Mr. Elderview has pointed out. So it is okay to challenge these norms, but it is not okay to lie about who you are. The point of what @Jones_Elderview is doing is to challenge society's arbitrary gender norms, not to lie about himself and say that he is a girl. As long as Mr. Elderview knows that he is a male human being and shows up with his nail polish as a male human being and isn't lying to anyone about who he is as a male human being, he can wear nail polish.
Let's take an example from my own life - let's say that I want to have a set of the six Bionicle Toa on display on top of my bookcase in my house. Bionicle sets are typically viewed as a masculine activity, but there's no reason I can't have that display on top of my bookcase. That's just me challenging the gender norms and saying "female human beings can like action figures too" rather than me declaring to the world a lie about who I am and saying that "I'm a guy", which I'm not.
The caution is, if you are challenging the norms, to make clear that's what you're doing and not lying about who you are. So the idea is to not overdo it and to pick your battles. For example, if you show up in masculine clothing (shirt and pants) with your nail polish, most people will get the right idea that you're just a guy with nail polish. But if you completely cross-dress, people might think you're a girl or transgender and then you may have consequences. If you choose to wear a kilt one day, maybe wash off the nail polish first and wear pants underneath. There is a difference between "weird guy" and "transgender", and you want to make sure you're in "weird guy" territory.
As for me, there are ways to make sure what people know what I mean in my house. I plan to have some cute Lego Elves sets (which I also like) and some quilt hangings near the Bionicle display which will make my intentions clear. (Along with my collection of cute alpacas and my Scarlet man plushie, obviously. I'm a girl - I like interior decorating.)
Don't lie about who you are and who God made you to be. If God made you a male human being, you are a male human being, and if God made you a female human being, you are a female human being. As long as you are not lying about that to others and are clear that you're not, you're fine.
I have Scripture to back up this conviction about that - which I quote below.
What I have described - not lying about who you are as male and female - I believe is the point behind the Deuteronomy verse. If a guy pretended to be a girl by wearing girl's clothes, he might have opportunity to commit certain crimes that he might not otherwise be able to with a male appearance. Thus the practice was banned. If you've heard of the recent school bathroom controversy, it was like that. Only, uh, worse. Much worse.
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Here are some relevant verses when dealing with the subject of transgender/crossdressing, in addition to the verse in Deuteronomy already brought up:
This is God's created order. People who state that the bodies of men and women do not define their gender are in violation of verse 24, as are the homosexuals. Verse 24 is also a command, and it is why homosexuality was punished before Romans 1 was written (see Genesis 19 for the Sodom and Gommorrah story, which is a parallel to the story of the Isle on the Aetherlight). This is the definitive set of verses that should put an end to all transgender claims.
Therefore, as male and female human beings, we are required to live as male and female human beings, as God has commanded in verse 24. This doesn't mean we all have to get married - Paul refutes that in 1 Corinthians 7. But it does mean that male and female are defined by our bodies, and that one man and one woman is God's plan for marriage.
Therefore, if you are a man, you have an obligation to live like a man; if you are a woman, you are obligated to live like a woman and not lie about it. Don't lie about who you are.
The verse in Deuteronomy is not the best case against transgender behavior, because it is part of the Mosaic law which Christians don't 100% follow (I don't know about you, but ham is delicious ). The sexual immorality laws do apply to us, as per this section:
But then you get into fights with unbelievers about whether that verse is a sexual immorality law, so the Genesis verse and unilateral declaration puts a better end to the argument. I would agree with the people that say that the verse in Deuteronomy is a sexual immorality law, but then what is "the clothes of a woman?" I bought my pants in the woman's section, so I assume those are woman's clothes. I also assume that if I re-tailor them to have bigger pockets, I can do so without violating this verse. Hence my conviction that I stated above about not deceiving people as to whether or not my body is male or female, which I derive firmly from the Genesis and Proverbs verses I quoted.
The last important verse I know of in dealing with transgender is this verse:
Transgender individuals...harm themselves...and do things to their bodies that are gruesome and in violation of verse 19. And that is all I will say about that. Actually, this is about as far as I will go on this subject at all.
If you ever feel like you are not the gender that God has made you to be, talk to your parents or a trusted adult. It is way way beyond the scope of this forum.
I wrote this a long time ago about my debate philosophy, and I'm going to stand by it now:
What I have seen recently, sadly, is an epidemic of illegal weaponry being brought to debate. Recently, the hurtful commentary strain has particularly been on the rise, but I have also seen some personal attacks being thrown.
Mostly hurtful commentary though. What is hurtful commentary? It is phrasing your debate reply - which may be 100% totally true! - in a way to harm the person who has dared to challenge the one and only absolute truth which you happen to know. Oof.
It's you blaming the other person for debating you, basically. I didn't want to debate you, but you are spouting so much nonsense that I have to - again!
No you don't.
If the person has the Holy Spirit in them, then God will correct their lack of spiritual knowledge. It's not on you - you're not responsible for the other person's sanctification. Even if you don't respond with that forum post, the person is not going to be left to drown. God will help them. Maybe pray for the person instead of pushing the fact that you are hurt by them and their lies back at them.
What I see is people responding to debate here not because they like debating, not because they like helping people by quoting scripture, but because they are hurt. This topic is actually supposed to be fun, a place to learn from each other's differences, not a place to hurt each other by dragging in painful lies (or even painful truths) just for the sake of provoking someone else to a fight.
But to be fair, and I have to say this to the moderators, this topic of gender roles is agonizing. It is very painful, and there is a difference between people who are malicious, and people who are in pain. The lies that Satan has fed our society - both in the legalism of the past and the antinominalism of the present - take aim at the foundation of who we are. The convictions we need to navigate are a stormy minefield of societal expectations. But God's word is clear.
So that's my best thought: Don't drag information into this topic just to hurt people. We don't need to know about every strange thing in your life if it has the potential to hurt someone.
If you are hurt by what someone else has posted, I suggest thinking about why you're in pain before you respond. Sometimes you're believing a lie the other person has brought up, and that's why you're in pain - you may be responsible for your own pain and need to change your beliefs to believe the truth before you respond. Sometimes you may need to forgive the other person for the offense they have committed against you first before thinking about what to respond with. Sometimes it's both.
But these responses should be friendly attempts to help, not attacking each other in pain. I'm not expecting success - this is a hard topic - but please try. Please try to put the "friendly" back in "friendly argument".
P.S. This post was way way too long.