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This is assessment is correct. That was a horrible example to use to support point #2 here. It was wrong of me to assume an universal emotional reaction to something, or even to validate that particular reaction.
I may or may not be particularly inclined toward that reaction, but that is entirely on me. Most likely I am mixing up a heterosexual rejection that I delivered to someone else in the middle of a situation where I was first learning about homosexuality with a conclusion about homosexuals.
This is true, but sexual attraction is not love. Love is a commitment to the true good of another person.
There are other reasons to get married. I would not consider "attracted to women" a qualification for marriage to me. An asexual who has no sexual attraction at all would be just as acceptable.
Likewise, if "attracted to women" were the reason for getting married to a guy, that is a vast group of people. If he is suffering from attraction to women, why me? Why not someone else? There are many women who would make better wives and mothers than me. This doesn't make any sense.
This assessment is correct, mostly.
It's not valid to break up with a heterosexual relationship to pursue a homosexual relationship though, even though it is valid to break up with one heterosexual relationship to pursue another or just to be single.
I'm looking at this sentence that I just wrote and I am having a "wat" reaction. I'm struggling, Pig. twitches alpaca ears
I mean, I wouldn't really be able to stop a proverbial boyfriend from pursuing sin, but if they abandoned me for it they would at least get a warning that they are driving into sin from me. I'm not going to enable their sin problem. However, I'm probably not going to pursue them after they have made such a ill-advised decision. If they quit their sin, I would wait and see if their repentance is real, but I'm forgiving enough to welcome them back eventually.
But could you really blame me for the "Drat! I wanted to marry that guy." reaction in that situation? I think I would accept that from myself and other women. Seems legit. Especially if the woman had sexual attraction to him.
I'm looking at this: if homosexuality didn't exist, both of the guys in a homosexual relationship could be married to women. So in theory, for every homosexual relationship, there could be 4 hurt people: the two guys and the two women who they are supposed to be married to, in God's sovereignty. The two women go without the marriage they want and suffer as a result. The guys hurt themselves. (Throw a surrogate mom or a sperm donor into the mix and kids who grow up without a mom or a dad, and it's a dumpster fire of human pain.)
Really? What if I just like his company and he wants to do it with me or we both want the relationship for fun? What if we want to have kids? Unfortunately, I've never experienced sexual attraction, so you're going to have to explain this to me for me to get it. What's the offense? How does me not experiencing that in a marriage hurt the other person?
I have no sexual attraction. The term for me is heteroromantic asexual. This is a painful existence, and it makes it hard for me to understand this topic in some ways - that is the most painful part of it, not being able to understand people who do have sexual attraction. I can't relate to something I've never experienced. My defense of you guys being able to discuss it was very Beatrice Hall; I'm pretty incompetent with this subject, as you are obviously seeing.
Agreed. Openness about this should be encouraged. Dishonesty makes everything worse.
Life can be a box of fog rocks. The dude isn't wrong for being honest, but it still can hurt if you wanted him, is my understanding.
Guilty as charged.
God: Homosexuality is an invalid attraction, an abomination, and morally wrong.
Miss_S: I'm not arguing with God on this one. If you have a problem with God's position, take it up with him. I'm just his follower and messenger of truth. If you're confused on God's position, consult Romans 1.
That was an argument from similarity between your posts and Faetrix's. I wasn't meaning to implicate you in the homosexual part of it. Dragging the homosexuality up to talk about suicide allowed me to talk about suicide without violating the privacy of anyone on the forum. It was a "dodge".
Sexual and Romantic Attraction
This is true. But dude, I could write a whole essay on this. I actually did a whole Powerpoint with my analysis of all the different sexual and romantic attractions. I can send it to you over Discord if you want it.
But a homoromantic heterosexual lives a very different life than a homoromantic homosexual or heteroromantic homosexual or homoromantic asexual, yes. A homoromantic heterosexual usually can be married to a gal and have his guy pal best friend or best friends, and everything is cool. A heteroromantic homosexual will have close friends of the opposite gender despite being "gay", and a homoromantic ace will just have their group of same-sex friends.
And heteroromantic aces get very lonely. Sometimes they get married so they have someone of the opposite gender to talk to, and accept the birthing stuff as a cost to get the conversations and the hugs. glares at Pig for insulting my suffering I forgive you for that, man. You didn't know.
Second point first, just because they "should" doesn't mean they do. Many kids who come out end up on the streets, mostly because of the toxic political stuff I mentioned over in Member's Union.
First point second
I've already kinda of explained this already, the refusing to accept that what they are doing is an affront to God. But it causes physical and medical damage. I really can't explain the details because it's against the rules. I suppose I could explain it privately to you, if you really really want to know. It's really gross. I think it is better if you look it up yourself, if you are of the age to know how those parts of the body work.
Any relationship that doesn't follow God's commands is abusive on some level in my view. Even premarital relationships that include forbidden physical stuff are abusive because you are using that person as a dopamine dispenser instead of taking care of them, and this works the same way. The proper way to take care of that part of the body is to use it as God intended, so when you don't, you are hurting the other person for the highs. The other person isn't human to you, they are just a device to extract fun from. It's extremely hurtful, and it is NOT love.
Sorry, had to appease the Forum Overlords by staying on topic. Hope you all understand.