Law and Order! Or a good place for a friendly argument

[Taka_Merespinner1]

@Xonos_Darkgrate1, my "A Tale of Two Musketeers" starts off in Francia, yet we do come to NML. Should it be closed it for the NARP parts in it in describing mine and Miss de Spark's background? (I truly am curious) decides to mute topic once he answers

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

hi man. what does that mean please?

Winning the argument through both logic and words as well.

@Xonos_Darkgrate1, my "A Tale of Two Musketeers" starts off in Francia, yet we do come to NML. Should it be closed it for the NARP parts in it in describing mine and Miss de Spark's background? (I truly am curious) decides to mute topic once he answers

To tell you the truth, I haven't read it, so I can't give you a definitive answer. (I couldn't give you a definitive answer either way since I'm not a moderator haha). But based off what you said, I think it could fit as long as your character is still set in Aethasia and remains by that theme.

My own opinion around non-Aetherlight elements included in RP is somewhere around not having it at all and it's-okay-if-it's-corrected.

[Emman_Jumpsong1]

god invented his rules BASED on love. people made laws, but god is love.

[Jacoby_Elderfun1]

But based off what you said, I think it could fit as long as your character is still set in Aethasia and remains by that theme.

@Xonos_Darkgrate1
But what would happen if the SkyRaiders story eventually worked its way into coming down to Aethasia?

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Would you say that having that part would be OK? (This isn't a contradiction. Just wanting to see how you would answer to that.)

[Taka_Merespinner1]

To tell you the truth, I haven't read it

Gaaaaaasp

But based off what you said, I think it could fit as long as your character is still set in Aethasia and remains by that theme.

Ah. I'm going to withdraw from all this conflict and continue to draw CM/SM. My mother warned me to make sure I am nice, so I am sorry, because part of my last post was a bit.......something, I don't know.

but god is love.

God is also wrath.
starts to mute topic, then sees what @Jacoby_Elderfun1 Seriously? sits back to wait

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

The thought literally just crossed my mind haha. (Still is).

I mean, my answer to that right now is that yeah, I think a more down-to-earth version of Skyraiders would be better (ignore the pun). But I don't really see that happening because who wants Skyraiders without wings? It just won't fly.

(I'M SORRY)

Gaaaaaasp

It sounds interesting though haha, so maybe I'll give it a go.

Ah. I'm going to withdraw from all this conflict and continue to draw CM/SM. My mother warned me to make sure I am nice, so I am sorry, because part of my last post was a bit.......something, I don't know.

Ahaha, you're fine, as far as I can tell.

[Emman_Jumpsong1]

we set wrath upon our self. he gives us a choice for us to come to him or if we want to do what we want to do. he wants to give us his heart. if we don't want it, then he won't interfere with that choice and we will be where we want to go. in his way or our way. with him or against him.

[Taka_Merespinner1]

Oh, yes. I agree, just the message of God is Love is used so much, that people forget the Wrath part.

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

Oh, yes. I agree, just the message of God is Love is used so much, that people forget the Wrath part.

Couldn't agree more.

[Kimkate_Burnclock]

"If it hurts, don't do it"

This isn't my philosophy if that's what you believe

But what would happen if the SkyRaiders story eventually worked its way into coming down to Aethasia?

Skyraiders is in Aethasia. If you've read the more recent posts. It's always been in Aethasia actually. The Sanctuary is on top of the Old Mount.

I don't really see that happening because who wants Skyraiders without wings? It just won't fly.

Are wings the issue here or the lack of Aetherlightness?

so far you haven't listed one clear example from my own words of contradiction or logical fallacy. You're just disagreeing with me

I suppose that's correct, I disagree with you. There's not much more to say on the matter until the Moderators decide.

[Hanna_Brassheart]

Guys, I wish I didn’t have school so I could jump in here (@Xonos_Darkgrate1 @Miss_K @Taka_Merespinner1 @Emman_Jumpsong1 @Jacoby_Elderfun1 et al.), but unfortunately I do have school and that’s what I should be doing right now. . .
I’ll get back to all of you on this later, I promise. MPRP will remain open until all we moderators come to a decision.

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

This isn't my philosophy if that's what you believe

I wouldn't certainly hope not. Sorry, some people have been using it, so I might've generalized you by accident haha. Thanks for clarifying.

Skyraiders is in Aethasia. If you've read the more recent posts. It's always been in Aethasia actually. The Sanctuary is on top of the Old Mount.

You've made this point.
It was one of the first ones you made actually.
Hasn't quite changed my mind yet.

Are wings the issue here or the lack of Aetherlightness?

More so what they entail than what they are. That was more of an attempt (yes, I confess) at a pun.

I suppose that's correct, I disagree with you. There's not much more to say on the matter until the Moderators decide.

Oof, I was hoping you had more to say though. I didn't want to argue with air.

, but unfortunately I do have school and that’s what I should be doing right now. . .I’ll get back to all of you on this later, I promise. MPRP will remain open until all we moderators come to a decision.

Ahahaha . . . (I laugh because . . same)
-drags self off-

[Kimkate_Burnclock]

@Hanna_Brassheart thank you

[Taka_Merespinner1]

I think I'm done, Skipper. Have fun in school! (Tell your mom hello!)

(I laugh because . . same)

Taka is done with school! She now just has homework and a recital! Woo!

[Kimkate_Burnclock]

Thanks for clarifying.

You're welcome, sir.

You've made this point.It was one of the first ones you made actually.Hasn't quite changed my mind yet.

I was informing Jacoby of that, I know you know it already.

More so what they entail than what they are.

Oh? What do they entail?

Oof, I was hoping you had more to say though. I didn't want to argue with air.

Bwahaha! The truth of the matter is, I still have more things to say to you. However, if all you wanted to do was argue, then the worst I can do to you is dose your fire. I refuse to argue onward!

Unless you say something totally unreasonable

Otherwise, I refuse to argue onward!

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

Oh? What do they entail?

-exhales-
A NARP, in short.

Bwahaha! The truth of the matter is, I still have more things to say to you. However, if all you wanted to do was argue, then the worst I can do to you is dose your fire. I refuse to argue onward!

Oh, that's sad. I always hope that the opposing side can voice their own opinion. Or in other words, rationalize their position. If you can't or won't, I suppose that's fine . . . Because I truly do just want to know your reasoning; I try not to be ignorant. If there was really something I couldn't answer or refute, believe me, I'd say so haha.

[Kimkate_Burnclock]

I truly do just want to know your reasoning

eye twitches Oh, so I haven't told you my reasoning already? What then are all my arguments against yours? Merely arguments? My reasoning, as you believed your was, is based on the facts of the matter!

You've plainly stated your view of NARP. Here's my view of NARP.

An RP with little or no connection to Aethasia.

Yes, it sounds similar to yours, but there's more. If the RP is located in Aethasia, deals with Aethasian elements, and/or has the original characters in it, it's perfectly fine.

James Bond could shoot his way through the streets of No Man's Landing in peace.

However, there have been role plays with little or no connection to Aethasia. Take for example, the Avengers role play. You can tell by the name it has no connection to Aetherlight in any way, shape, or form.

Before I joined Skyraiders, I didn't think it had anything to do with Aethasia. However, when I read it and came to understand the progressive story, I could see where it tied into Aethasia.

[Eerie_Coppernight]

If you want my view on the matter, Monsieur Darkgrate, I shall begin with how the Mountain Peak Role Play truly began. It did not begin as a role play at all, rather as a question posed by Mademoiselle Throttlenight to the forums. The question was simply, "What if you had wings?" She did this to find kindred spirits who also longed to take flight. After some conversation and realizing that she was not alone in her desire to fly, she and a few others decided to make a Role Play about having wings. It may have begun as more NARPish than they intended, but it has changed since then. The Wynged have begun to go out into Aethasia and do the work of the Resistance. Some of us are not even living in the Sanctuary. We hope to have even more adventures within the world of Aethasia.
Also if you check your Map of Aethasia, my good monsieur, you will find a wooded area to the north of No Man's Landing.

[Xonos_Darkgrate1]

eye twitches Oh, so I haven't told you my reasoning already? What then are all my arguments against yours? Merely arguments? My reasoning, as you believed your was, is based on the facts of the matter!

I've heard your opinion, I've heard you thoughts, but I speak honestly when I say I haven't heard anything convincing.
But I suppose there is nothing to say now haha.

If you want my view on the matter, Monsieur Darkgrate, I shall begin with how the Mountain Peak Role Play truly began. It did not begin as a role play at all, rather as a question posed by Mademoiselle Throttlenight to the forums. The question was simply, "What if you had wings?" She did this to find kindred spirits who also longed to take flight. After some conversation and realizing that she was not alone in her desire to fly, she and a few others decided to make a Role Play about having wings. It may have begun as more NARPish than they intended, but it has changed since then. The Wynged have begun to go out into Aethasia and do the work of the Resistance. Some of us are not even living in the Sanctuary. We hope to have even more adventures within the world of Aethasia. Also if you check your Map of Aethasia, my good monsieur, you will find a wooded area to the north of No Man's Landing.

It's the same argument. (Being within Aethasia).
I've seen the map, and I'm fully aware of where Mountain Peak is set.
Though I can't help but chuckle because its biggest defenders are lovers of the RP itself haha; though, I suppose, that's something to be expected.

[Peregrine_Appleclock]

If I may add my penny. . .

I am actually kind of in between y'all when it comes to this arguement. I don't think MPRP is a NARP, buuuuut I kind of do.

On one hand, I agree with everything @Sierepica_Fuzzywalker said. I think it's perfectly fine if we mix some non-Aetherlight components into our roleplays, and it's not like it will fit anywhere else in Cyberspace. However, the roleplay shouldn't revolve around those components, which is where I agree with @Aislinn_Mollisong1 and @Xonos_Darkgrate1.

Overall, I do not think MPRP should be deleted/locked because I see potential in it. While it doesn't seem to be focusing enough on the Aetherlight universe last I checked, I think the writers are capable of pulling it off! The way I see it, even though it's set in Aethasia, and it has Aethasian things in it, it could still be a LOT less NARP-y. Stop focusing solely on wings and flying and the Old Mount, and start thinking more about the Resistance and the Empire and all of Aethasia! We (the SkyRaiders) need to spread out a lot more! We have wings, so why aren't we traveling the world right now?? Why are we still hovering over the Old Mount when there is so much more to explore??

I think that's the problem: the SkyRaider world is so compact and so full of itself, that it's become a world of its own. To reuse Xonos' concept here, we have been making something and adding The Aetherlight to it, when we should be taking the Aetherlight and adding that something to it. We need to mix in with Aethasia more. Be brave! Venture out! Keep spreading the Resistance! Everything should not solely revolve around wings.

So yeah. Right now MPRP is kind of a NARP, but it could be SOOOO much better. All we need to do is adjust our mindset from wings and the Sanctuary to using those wings to explore, and spread the impact of the Resistance to all of Aethasia!

Heheh, that wasn't exactly a "debate" kind of argument, but it's all I've got.