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[Miss_E3]

We need to be steadfast!
I'd suggest you listen to " Planetboom , Praise over problems" & everytime you want to give into to worldly music that doesn't please God play that song instead or find another really good Christian song you like & everytime your tempted play that song instead.

A few years ago I loved Kpop music, all the cute Korean boys, their amazing dance moves, & handsome faces! They really know how to look attractive, dance well & play a good beat. But I started to realize it was sin, first off I was distracted by the hot guys, second the lyrics were really not pleasing to God. They were about worldly pleasures, worldly " Love" , & other things that were more about pleasing self, or giving off vibes like " I'm the best, I'm the coolest, I'm on top of the world" etc when the Bible wants us as Christians to be humble & live quite lives world with our hands. There's a Bible verse that specifically says that.

I finally got sick of it & had enough of being weak, I put on my spiritual armour of God. Praise over problems! & Now I don't struggle with wanting to listen to secular music at all. & With a bit of time YouTube searching I've found some pretty awesome Christian beats!

[Miss_E3]

Sftdp but I also used to really like this Kpop band called StrayKids. My favorite song was Miroh. & Just like Avicii they don't have any swear words.
But man, those men are extremely attractive & it was distracting me. & The attitude they were portraying isn't humble.

One day I thought to myself how would God feel of me listening to a band called StrayKids, when I'm no longer lost but am found?

I should pray for the StrayKids band to become found too! I'm sure they could make some awesome Christian worship music if they gave their lives to Jesus Christ.

Theirs also no swear words in their lyrics but I realized the attitude of StrayKids is also not pleasing to God just like the same rebellious party attitude Avicii was giving. It was making me feel full of myself listening to their music, like I was on top of the world because that's the kind of lyrics they put in their Songs.

Christian music humbles us & gives the Praise, worship & adoration that God deserves, instead of putting the praise on ourselves our our crushes.

[Hans_Oddcraft]

@Miss_E3, you yourself have proclaimed to be an avid admirer of the arts. Music is another form of art. Assuredly you don't reserve yourself from entering an art gallery in case one the paintings is depicting something unholy or because you disagree with the views of the artist. No doubt you have enjoyed art galleries with art that will not hang in Heaven. Music is also art and can one not appreciate a good song even if they disagree with the views of the artist?
I understand you have a conviction over secular music. This is perfectly fine and is where God is working with you, but if to someone else secular music is not a stumbling-block then it is not your place to judge their relationship with the Almighty. Some people are convicted over political engagement, you are not. God's rewards will not be based on quantity of good works per se, but on attitude. A paralyzed man can't do what Hudson Taylor did. The widow that donated two mites donated far more than all the rich men of Jerusalem. Her attitude in the area of giving was far more generous than those with great financial stock. If secular music causes you to sin then do away with it, but to Creel something else may cause her to sin that she needs to do away with. We can't attempt to convict someone of something that isn't a problem for them, much less call them lukewarm. For some people riches is a problem, for others it is a blessing. Unless the issue can be proven explicitly wrong from Scripture it is best to leave God's personal work up to God.

[Miss_E3]

I agree but if an artist name means Buddist hell that's a whole different subject & all Christians should do away with that. Doesn't matter if your paralyzed or not anyone can turn off a song, or take some headphones out, out stop playing a track. Including those with disabilities.

Im not against music genres or styles. There's plenty of artist that have the same style of Avicii without the sinful attitude. Sorry but to me it will always be lukewarm for any Christian who knows his name means hell & he made a video about the mark of the beast. Wake up!

Secular music that promotes attitudes & lifestyles against God is wrong for any Christian from any situation no matter what background or abilities they have. & That's very tru that different Christians struggle with different sins etc but for churches to down play how wrong most secular music is? Wake you up! Bro!

Don't down play how evil Avicii really was just because he died of suicide. His life was all about drugs, wild parties & his love of hell & buddism.
The Bible Cleary says those enjoy themselves full of the pleasure of wild parties like Avicii will not inherent the kingdom of God, so why would a Christian want to pleasure themselves with music that's leading souls to hell?.

Wake you up bro.

[Miss_E3]

It's not just one track of, Avicii I'm against. its him as a whole it's his name & his attitude. It's a sin to listen to an artist who's very stage name means lowest level of buddist hell. Are you a buddist or a Christian? John didn't even know that Avicii ment hell or that Wake me up was about the mark of the beast. Therefore I'm glad I've informed him. So he can't go telling a bunch of unbelievers his favorite song Wake me up when its about the mark of the beast.

Mature Christians don't listen to worldly music they are more mature in their faith & live pure lives & stay away from that stuff. Don't be confused. Mature Christians don't entertain themselves with Avicii.

[Miss_E3]

Lol you might as well listen to Bethel music that teaches false teachings than listen to an artist like nirvana or Avicii which is about buddist beliefs!

It's honestly ridiculous bunch of Christians are saying don't listen to Bethel music it's false teaching be here let them listen to the secular music like Avicii & Nirvana that's about sinful wild lifestyles & buddist beliefs.

Wake up! You guys need a real Christian version of " Wake me up"! Seriously! Wake up!

[Miss_E3]

Secular music is a stumbling block for all Christians just not some & it's disappointing that some Christians are so numb to the sin or darkness in the entertainment industry in their lives that they're ok with it & they pleasure themselves by listening to it or don't think it's wrong. Avicii clearly sings " even God doesn't know where I'm going & I sure as hell don't care" if Creel feels comfortable playing his music with that wicked attitude in church I seriously feel she needs to find a new church that isn't so lukewarm that isn't afriad to not say what itching ears want to hear!

It's those itches ears that want to hear that it's not a sin or it's ok to listen to all these immoral music artists. Itching ears wanna hear that, because they just can say no to those beats, they can't control themselves because they're addicted to it. Satan loves music & it's the music industry that Satan works the most powerfully in, he's even got Christians hooked on it because the devil knows it's hard to resist a good beat, even if it means turning away from God.

[Miss_E3]

Sftudp but would you say it's ok for me listen to Mika? Because Mika is openly gay, but there's one of his songs that's extremely catchy that I really really like... But he also has a song called " No place in heaven" ...

Now if you say it's a sin for me to listen to Mika just because he's gay but you say it's not a sin to listen to Avicii who isn't gay yet who's stage name means hell, aren't you being a big hypocrite!

I might as well start listening to Mika again because man I really like that one catchy song of his! It's ok though I'm sure God will be ok with it because I don't accept that he's gay or just won't listen to his one song " no place in heaven" .

Wake you up bro! A Christian shouldn't listen to secular music that is clearly showing an attitude against God. Especially when their name means hell!

[Hans_Oddcraft]

I'm not trying to defend Avicii, but there is much art that is Godless and was painted by perverse men. One pre-Raphalite artist painted some incredible paintings, but he was a depressed drug addict. Van Gogh had mental issues, cutting off his own ear, and yet we admire his Stary Night as one of the greatest pieces of art in history. Michelangelo used prostitutes as models for the Sistine Chapel. I'm using these as an example to show that we are all convicted on different issues. It would not be right for the church to promote an artist like Avicii, but to some Christians it is no issue for them. You can express your concerns, but don't call out other Christians as lukewarm for something that isn't an issue for them.

Secular music is a stumbling block for all Christians just not some

You can't say this since you aren't all Christians.
Some Christians would call you a sinner for wearing sports clothing. Some would call any woman who wears shorts lukewarm. To some that is a stumbling block.

[Miss_E3]

You know what people I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm better than you I'm just showing how to music industry has really led a lot of Christians astray or made us comfortable with things that are wrong just because they got really good catchy beats. I'm being honest.

I used to really like David Guetta I was a big fan of David Guetta because he's got the same type of music beat that I like, dancing upbeat, energetic and I went to his concert a couple of years ago and it was the first music concert I ever went to and it was the last music concert I ever went to I was in the very front row of the stage and I was dancing and enjoying myself until the point where he sang a song and he said " angels deserve to die" , I was really upset and I stopped dancing and I think he saw that I was upset when he's saying that and I never listened to David Guetta again and I realized that I never wanted to go to a secular music concert ever again and I was really upset and that's how you guys should feel about finding out that Avicii means hell and that he doesn't care where he's going & he disrespected God & said God Dudu know either.

[Miss_E3]

Ok but I don't agree. God didn't make people like bad things, God doesn't tempt people to sin or like things against Him. That's your willful choice to be more lukewarm & wanting to please God less. You shouldn't want to be lukewarm you should want to be Hot for Jesus.

I want to show you these Bible verses & it's not just for you but myself as well. The Titus 1:16 verse can put all Christians in check, even if were born again. There's actions & things we can do & it makes me think is this for Christ? The second verse also says there should be no foolish talk & obscenity.

I'm just being real that almost all of today's secular music is about immorality, drugs, & wild drinking parties. The Bible says people like that won't enter the kingdom of God. So when we listen to their music it's like we're saying we support those musicians lifestyle of drugs, immorality & their wild drinking parties.

For Avicii yea there was no swear words but it was downright against God. The Wake me up one especially but even the other music videos were all supporting those wild drinking music festivals. What goes on during most of those secular music festivals are very wrong!

I'm praying for you to be ok with wanting to be a lukewarm Christian but to ask God to help you make wiser choices for your soul house rules & to strive for those eternal rewards.

[Miss_E3]

Any Christian that thinks its wrong to wear sports clothes is just ignorant & uneducated about the cultural differences of different styles of dress . There's born again Christian all around the world who dress differently based on their cultural up bringing & societal backgrounds but ask any Christian from any country This!

Imagine if nobody here Knew who Avicii was & instead he was an author and a Christian came to you.. no matter how differently they're dressed from any country and you said " hey ! here's a book and the authors fake name is Avicii. His name means lowest level of hell and in his novel he says that even God doesn't know where he's going and he sure has hell doesn't care! you want to check out this book it's a good read!"

First of all I'd think that's a lukewarm Christian who is reading bad novels.
Any born again Christian would say no thank you but because Aviciiici has catchy beats to a song and is good looking and didn't tell everybody that his name means hell & unfortunately you guys couldn't even understand his lyrics because you didn't take the time to watch his music videos or read the lyrics for yourselves it's okay to continue listening to him now that you know what he stands for?

I don't agree I think it's wrong no matter what. It's not my problem if some Christians are uneducated about clothing differences and I think it looks more inappropriate for women to put on the bunch of makeup on their faces and high heels to show off their legs then someone wearing appropriate for sports clothes. Shorts are modest depending on how long they are. At a normal Bible camp I went to girls shorts had to be the length of where the fingers met the leg on a straight arm.

And let's not get me started on how inappropriate skirts & dresses are compared to shorts & pants. I wonder how many times at a Bible conference I was forced to wear a stupid skirt & it flew up in the wind & people saw my underwear or when I was young as a child & did a cartwheel in a skirt. Lol would'nt have happened in shorts or pants!

[caleb_Larkmagnet1]

That's enough talk about Avicii.

[Hans_Oddcraft]

This is an opinion you feel very strongly about and as far as I can see you have offered no Scripture.
Just like different people dress differently so do people listen to different music.
Also, please classify whether you are attacking Avicii only or all secular music.
There is also a difference between listening to a song freely and absorbing everything said, and listening to a song with the knowledge that you don't totally agree with the artist. There are many secular songs that are clean. I can't speak on behalf of Avicii as I have not listened to his music, therefore I am not defending him.
You are right about cultural differences. In America many Christians are convicted regarding drinking, in the UK they wouldn't think twice. The same difference exists between people. If one person is convicted to wear skirts and the other not then it is hardly right to attack anyone based on a belief. Just so some Christians enjoy music not labeled as Christian, and making an attack on them would disturb and distract them from God's path for their lives.
If someone came up to you and said you had to wear a skirt or you are lukewarm Christian you would be offended. You told Creel she can't listen to any music but Christian music with no Biblical evidence. Only your opinion. How do you think she felt? Avicii may have a bad name, but just by listening to the music doesn't mean you are praising it.

And let's not get me started on how inappropriate skirts & dresses are compared to shorts & pants. I wonder how many times at a Bible conference I was forced to wear a stupid skirt & it flew up in the wind & people saw my underwear or when I was young as a child & did a cartwheel in a skirt. Lol would'nt have happened in shorts or pants!

You can't enforce your personal experience on others as law. There are ways to avoid such "wardrobe malfunctions." Just because you may not have taken such precautions doesn't change reality. I'm not defending skirt-wearers here, but I am defending the principle of opinion.

[Miss_E3]

I'm specifically talking about Avicii & Nirvana. Not all secular music. Some secular music can be very ok like the theme song to Spongebob or something talking about a completely appropriate topic like the forest idk. But when it's swearing, talking about sex before marriage & drugs, drinking & wild parties with immoral dancing no I'm not ok with it & I don't think Christians should be comfortable entertaining their ears with those lyrics.

& I agree I don't care if other Christians wear skirts but they can't force or say it's wrong.

[Spector_Otterquill]

Some secular music can be very ok like the theme song to Spongebob or something talking about a completely appropriate topic like the forest

Only if it's by a christian artist though.

[Miss_E3]

Actually I do have bible verses to back it up. There in the photo below. the Bible is clear that people that have wild parties will not inherit the kingdom of God and any music videos that portray people dancing immorally at wild parties where there is drinking alcohol and drugs and sex before marriage is against God if you watch it vici's music videos that's the kind of environment he's portraying.

any secular music that is promoting while drinking parties in their videos or has two unmarried people dancing very closely together is sin & no lukewarm Christian will convince me otherwise. The Bible verses back it up. If it's not ok for Christians to be at those wild drinking parties than why is it ok for us to watch music videos & listen to music portraying those wild parties?

[Miss_E3]

For me ATM yes.

[Spector_Otterquill]

Then how is SpongeBob's theme song ok?

[Hans_Oddcraft]

Thanks for clearing that up. I would have to agree with that. In future make sure to distinguish between all secular music and secular music with sinful themes.